Red door den training center scam
Red Door Den Training Center Scam Greg Hogue Fraud Greg Hogue PBIA Membership Lapsed December 31 2023 Boot Camp Scheduled Jan 24th to the 26th. Mike Ward Fargo 430
I arrived at the "Den" on Friday Jan 2025. I had asked Greg Hogue prior to arriving and after arriving what the Training schedule we would be using during this weekend bootcamp. Red Flag # 1... He ignored the question on text and in person. Red Flag # 2...The Den is in a very dangerous area of Tulsa. Most of the houses in the area are run down, falling apart and generally neglected. This neighborhood is a SLUM. Red Flag # 3 -Greg meets me with a slovenly appearance, very unkept and unprofessional with only a few visible teeth in his mouth. Despite the appearance of Greg, his neighborhood and his accommodations, I had driven 9 hours and paid $750 dollars for this bootcamp and was excited about learning the finer points of the game of pool, increasing my skills by an advertised PBIA instructor, which he is not and has not been since December of 2023.
I did not want to judge a "Book by its cover" and decided to proceed with the weekend planned Bootcamp. I was escorted to my room {which was included in the Bootcamp.) next door at his mother's house. Greg informs me that I will be playing in a weekly pool tournament at the 727 club that evening. He said, " this will be a way for him to assess my skills". He then proceeds to ask me if we can drive my car to the club because he does not have one available. I had serious reservations about this but agreed to let him drive my car since he was familiar with the area and where we were going. I signed up and played the tournament while he observed and was told " Your mechanics are solid, and you are hitting them straight We are going to have a lot of fun tomorrow. “ I observed while I was playing that Greg was drinking alcohol constantly. He proceeds to drive us back to the Den. Make note that the "Den" is a small garage space on the back side of his home that smells like smoke and urine. I told Greg that I was glad that he thought my mechanics were solid and that I did not have to spend hours on that so I could go ahead and get into the meat and potatoes of why I drove 9 hours and spent $750 dollars. The next morning after breakfast we proceed to the Den to start "Training" this begins at 9:30 am. He runs the tape to the corner on his 9ft Diamond table with 4.25 pockets. He sets up a straight in shot and shows me how to address the ball. I proceed to make 57 balls in a row on his table. After a couple of hours of this and making most of the balls, I felt like I had a grasp of this shot. After lunch, he instructs me to shoot another 100 of the same shot. Long story short, I did this for 7 more hours on the same shot. I told Greg that I was in pain and wanted to work on something else to change the routine and change the position he had me in. He storms away with anger and yells back " Take 5". He comes back and aggressively tears the tape off the table and starts to set up other drills. We work on those drills for 30 more minutes before we go back to 727 club for another tournament that evening. I am feeling extreme pain and discomfort in my leg and disappointment that all I have done this entire day for 8 hours was shoot 370 straight in balls of the same shot.
We proceeded to the tournament in his car this time. During the tournament I developed a serious limp and leg cramp and was in pain. I could not get down on the shots correctly. I expressed to Greg my discomfort and he laughed at me and made light of my pain. I pulled Greg aside and discussed with him in a professional and courtesy manner that I did not feel that I received any value or true training for the money I spent. I told him I wanted to learn break training, shooting over balls, shooting from the rail, breaking clusters and developing pattern play. He immediately got aggressive and yelled at me and told me " I'm not even going to talk to you, GET YOUR SHIT AND GET OUT!" We entered the club again and he continued to berate and belittle me in front of his peers and other patrons of the club. His temper continued to escalate to the point I know longer felt safe being around him. He made me feel like he wanted this to escalate to violence. I did not feel comfortable riding back with him to his home as he had been drinking again throughout the evening and his visibly distraught mental state made me feel like he was going to harm me in some way. I got an UBER back to his home from the club and proceeded to retrieve my personal belongings and my car so I could exit this whole dreadful experience.
I was under the impression that he was a reputable instructor with the PBIA as he advertised on all his social media platforms. He is not as I have recently found out by the president of the PBIA his membership has lapsed yet he continues to convey he is in good standing with the organization. BUYER BEWARE of this scam by a clearly unstable person who does not take feedback of any kind that is not of his liking. I paid $750 for a weekend bootcamp that turned into a torture session of his own amusement. My weekend was cut short on Saturday night and I was offered no refund on training that I did not receive or lodging that I had paid for upfront.