Correction to veganism and antinatalism

So there is huge debate about requiring veganism in order to be AN, obviously the non vegans are against it because they dont want to change their lifestyle, simply identifying as AN or anti racist doesnt require you to do anything or modify your life that much, veganism does require that because animal cruelty is all around us

Technically veganism is not required to be AN, its only the activities that result in increasing breeding, so that would be purchasing animal products, because you need to have animals in order to produce the products made from them or through them, thus breeding is required, this includes seaworld, circus, zoos, clothing etc;

For example if a sheep dies, that means no more wool so they make more babies in order to have more wool, if i keep hens on my property to get eggs, at some point those hens will die and i will need more if i want to keep having eggs, if my circus tiger dies, well then i need another so that contributes to more breeding

Now if i was a hunter and i killed a wild animal i would not be increasing breeding, i would be inflicting suffering which is not necesary since i could simply buy plants instead, we do talk about suffering alot in this sub since life guarantees suffering and not pleasure and its often used as a justification for not making babies

So if AN is strictly about breeding and not suffering then you would have to abstain from animal products and services, that wouldnt make you vegan since technically you are allowed to hunt, however there might be some areas where the hunting grounds people do assist with breeding animals in order to have more victims to be shot since they would sell hunting licenses and in those cases you would not be AN

Most people in this sub are not AN even if put aside animal breeding, most people are child free but they want to feel ethical so they self identify as AN because child free makes you look selfish, it isnt, but the world is full of stupid people who thinks not wanting kids makes you some horrible monster

Then there are alot of other people just hate kids, their parents, their life or all 3, they are miserable and wish they werent born and so they dont want others to be born

If we are including suffering in AN which i think we should because why wouldnt we, we should be against suffering, then that would mean avoiding all unnessecary harm, and thats where a lot of illogical emotional people have issues, they have a conflict on which harm is necessary or not